Curse

lyra_song · Feb 11, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

How would YOU have handled this event?

If you could improve it, what would you have done differently?

-Mini Celestial Pig. Collector takes 3 Mini pigs. Not 5. Why? It seems more reasonable. At the current rate pigs are at 20-30kish, making the celestial pig 100k+. 3 mini pig requirement would have lowered the demand slightly, increased supply slightly and perhaps brought the prices down to a reasonable amount for casual players. I think 30k for a celestial pig seems reasonable.

-Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time.

-Mask. I would have modified last year's Nian mask slightly...just enough to make it different (like the two pumpkin helms). Doesnt have to be remade from scratch.

-Finale Event. I never liked how this finale required items from all over the place. The reward was never good. I think....they should ahve made it so...if you helped with at least 1 dish, you get the finale box of fireworks. Leechers would still get the mask, leechers would get the bags, but only people with ingredients would get the explosives. Meaning 1 complete ingredients set. I would have also removed Smoking Remains from the list. That sucks to farm.

-Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though.

the kurzick eater · Feb 11, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

i agree with you 100%

KingKryton · Feb 11, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Beetle racing - Remove knockdowns and instead add spells that just slow you down for a period of time. Also removing 90 degree+ turns because the majority of us dont have a under 100 ping and any sharp corner instantly rubber bands you back a few seconds.

cellardweller · Feb 11, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

How would YOU have handled this event?
-Mini Celestial Pig.

This mini only created friction. I don't think it should have been there at all.

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

-Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time.

Agreed

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-Mask.

All my masks go straight to the hat guy then get deleted... just saved me a trip accross shing jea I guess

. Would kinda suck for "hat people" though.

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-Finale Event.

The list was release far too late (Although it turned out to be a repeat list, we had no way to know that before hand). We didn't have a confirmed ingredients list until the day before the finale which means a solid day of doing nothing but farming for one person to get a set (took me ~6hrs). Lootscaling didn't help at all - would have been nice if they had found some way to make them unscaled for the event.

Rewards wise, I'm ok with letting people leech if they want - most of the "district sponsors" tended to go to the more barren zones anyway (eg Korea 2 for me), and it encouraged people to communicate and cooperate in the unsponsored districts. I think my only complaint is the megre rewards the person that actually donates the ingredients gets. I'd have liked to have seen a red bag given for each ingredient rather than a lunar token.

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-Beetle racing.

Can't comment here; I discovered during the first NY that the perpetual 300-500ms pings that australian's get makes achieving 465+ times nigh impossible and haven't been back since.

Eldin · Feb 11, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Un-nerf that Token farming exploit or make the quests/some new quests repeable.

PLEASE!!!

Navaros · Feb 11, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

3 pigs is still no good, most people trashed or gave away their pigs because there was no indication to save them. Changing the number to 3 doesn't make it any more equitable for them.

They should have simply left the pigs alone, period.

Make the gift this year be the celestial pig for everyone in a district that has provided the ingredients. Leave the rat as is as a random drop from fortunes.

For the rollerbeetle scandal they should add an Observer mode so that the ~5 GW players who happen to be clued in about the most exploitative way possible to exploit the map aren't the only ones out of the hundreds of thousands of players who have any chance whatsoever to compete on an even playing field and win a prize.

Or, simply close the exploitative tactics via updates, so that an average joe playing the race normally has a chance to compete. That may be more work than adding Obs Mode functionality though, so they should do whichever is less work.

For the finale there should have been a new hat, and everlasting fireworks, and/or fireworks that give you 1000 Party Animal points per use.

IlikeGW · Feb 11, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Stop making the game a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing lottery or farming fest, and give people something for playing. It's becoming a game only retards or 10-year-olds that don't know better will keep playing.

Ekelon · Feb 11, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

-Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though.

Remove Super Rollerbeetle skill IMO. I think that's what knocks off the balance of it. I can still get 470k without any super roller beetle or echoes though.

**cosyfiep** · Feb 11, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

1 new hat....why a rehash of last years??? when they specifically said they would never repeat a hat.

2 rat mini in finale---just like last year (this I would NOT have changed)....I see no problem with there being a plethera of minis---who gives a ratsass about the ecomony anet smashed the heck out of that a LOOOOOOONNNG time ago...to late to fix it now.

3 forget the mini pigs altogether---no need to give out another mini for naught.

4 yeah the ingredients....welll I got 17/22...so I would not have completed ANY of the dishes by my self (spent my time working on getting fortunes for the gd rat

...ok over that now)...people who gave say 10 of the ingredients should have gotten a better award---not all of the ingredients were asked for (but I noticed that he ALWAYS asked for the smoking remains---couldnt get those for the life of me)....and not people who gave the same one over and over (yeah you could do that for tokens

...got rid of a bunch of naga hides that way). So maybe these people could have gotten a fireworks (though I have no idea what I will do with mine beside sell it---no guild hall)

5 NEW quests....with 16 characters (yeah did all the canthan ones with them all--only the survivors did the elonian one)....it only took me 30 minutes to complete all 5. Had it down to a science (glad I wasnt noticed they would have thought me a bot!)....yeah I know gw2 is taking all their time, but hey gw is still here---if you dont keep us happy there wont be a gw2!

6 NEW ingredients....maybe some of the useless things from eye????

7 rollerbeetle, no ideas here since I never play those kinds of things (not a very fast connection and the LAGGG).

8 deal with LAGG---had bunches of it yet again, you'd think after wintersday that they would have thought that there would be more pressure on the servers during an event (I got dc'd twice while doing quests and once in the finale-not to mention going near the chef area, always a problem).

9 the level 5 requirement....ditch it....I have a bunch of mules that would have loved to get some more tokens for me to open (and see if my horrible luck would continue)....or something like character must be at least 1 month old to participate or level 5.....(some of my mules are going to have a second birthday soon!)

well thats all I can think of for now....

genofreek · Feb 11, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

None of this percentage bull for the rat. If I want to sink my valuables and gamble, there's always 9 Rings. You can get how many tokens through quests on a single character? 125? Make a collector that gives one celestial rat per 100 lunar tokens. Or a stack if you absolutely HAVE to make people farm. And maybe have the collector only pop in on Sunday for a REAL "I-was-there" feeling since they cheapened the hell out of the hat. :P

Speaking of...

Just slight changes to the hat, so it looks like someone at Anet cares a little. I didn't really need an all-new hat, but maybe a moderately different one would've made people who were here last year a little happier.

If they have to sink pigs, which they definitely don't, I second 3 regulars for one celestial. Far more reasonable. And maybe add an alternate way to offer the celestial pig for people who didn't hoard, gave away their extras, or weren't even here last year. A once-per-account quest?

Seconding observer mode for Rollerbeetle. I only played it a little bit, but I got my ass KICKED by people who'd memorized the course. Not that I cared much, but anyway, I'd rather watch these things than participate!

Keep the chefs, since I don't have a better idea and it's really not that complicated, but maybe ask for early/midgame trophies instead of all this endgame stuff that takes hours to farm. These chefs are terrible hosts as it is, all inviting us to parties and then expecting us to bring the ingredients for dinner and not even giving us any! :P Don't make me farm remains and stuff!

Edit: Speaking of the chefs not feeding us... how bout it, Anet? If all 5 chefs get their meals done right and the celestial's pleased, maybe let the citizens sample the goods too? Skin change some Feast of Bokka food items or sweets? This one's just a random thought. A little player's bonus. I actually kinda prefer the crates of fireworks to having buttloads of Skale Fin soup hanging out in my inventory.

HawkofStorms · Feb 11, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Remove dishonorable from bettle racing. Quiting or slow loading in bettle racing doesn't hurt your teammates, you have none. It punishes people with slow comps or anybody who rubberbands at the start and decides to /resign because they won't get to the end in 30 seconds.

Silly Warrior · Feb 11, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

This mini only created friction. I don't think it should have been there at all.

Oh I totally agree with this statement 100%.

Sparks Dawnbringer · Feb 11, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Maike what you get from the chefs in return for ingredients something worthwhile, like ten gift bags and 10 lunar fortunes and 10 festival tickets. Then people would be willing to go get the stuff for the chefs. And increase the drop rate on the very rare items to make them a bit easier to get. Shadowy Remains and Kracken Eyes to name a couple.

Make the special prize better than 5 crates of fireworks. I like the idea that there is something that will be for the guild halls. But would like permanent upgrades instead of 10 minute ones. I'd like to be able to lite my beacons in my hall.

Make the mask different.

Change the Pig to rat ratio to 3 instead of 5 and refund 2 pigs to every one who paid 5.

The new Pig and Rat are very nice and I like them very much. Very good job here and lovely design and idea.

I enjoy doing the quests and would have added one to Lions Arch too. That way there would be one quest on each continent. And maybe one in GW:EN too. It gets a bit grindy but I had to finish them on every character I could.

Croco Clouds · Feb 11, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

Remove Super Rollerbeetle skill IMO. I think that's what knocks off the balance of it. I can still get 470k without any super roller beetle or echoes though.

Yes, remove that skill plz i really hate those ppl who echo-super beetle

Shayne Hawke · Feb 11, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28

RBR: Top 100 - One score per account, highest score used.

fenix · Feb 11, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32

By making Rollerbeetle not give a prize. That way people wouldn't complain. Also, making no celestial pig or rat. Thread after thread complaining about the event is boring.

Crom The Pale · Feb 11, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

RAT Hat, nuff said!

Cacheelma · Feb 11, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

This is gonna be a long post.

-Mini Celestial Pig: As a developer, I'd realize that there're so many minipigs in the game due to the large amount given out last year. I'd find a way to reduce it. But I'd also think that sensible players won't probably keep more than 1 minipig with them. So, in order for them to get the celestial pig, they MUST TRADE with those who have many minipigs.

Now, I'd also realize that trading system in my game would make it difficult for people to trade with others, and the price would be fluctuated so much that balanced price won't be reached in just a day or two. Normal players won't have a chance to get the celestial pig without trading with others, or if they don't have enough money. I would, however, let the players know LONG BEFORE the start of the event about what's coming and how many they'd need.

So, I'd still make it a 5:1 trade. But I WILL ALSO PROVIDE ANOTHER MEANS to obtain the celestial pig. The amount would be as many as the rate of celestial rat. This way, those with surplus minipigs can trade for the new celestial pig. Those who don't have that many minipigs can still obtain the celestial pig the harder way.

-Mini Celestial Rat: The drop rate of the rat from lunar fortune seems fine to me (as I got one myself from the tokens I got from doing quests + trade-in). But then again, I'm not good at stats so I'll leave this one alone.

-Mask: This depends. I'd try and see if my people can afford to make a new hat (or at least a modified version of the old one, how hard can a tiny modification like name-changing be?). If they can then by all means. But if they can't, I'd stick with what I keep telling the players about how I'll never repeat old hats; and just make this event "Hat-less".

-Finale Event: With loot-scaling, I'd know that players won't be able to farm for the items as easy as last year. So I would let them know the ingredients some time in advance OR change the ingredients to something from GWEN, as I'd think most people are actively playing in GWEN area and chances are they might have items from the area already.

-The festival games like beetle racing and dragon arena seem to have their own issues, I'll leave those to the experts.

Mork from Ork · Feb 11, 2008, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Three main changes for me:

1: pig trade in - instead of trading 5 pigs, trade in 5 minipets (can be whatever minis you want and all 5 do not have to be the same) for celestial pig (or maybe for you characters celestial birth animal?)- let's clear out those other useless minis too. And make the collector permanent so we can trade in our fungal wallows throughout the year.

2: hat - change the appearance. Re-using old hat means lots of complaints in future about wanting old hats

3: rats - put them in the red bags instead of the fortunes and even out the drop rate somehow. I got five with very few fortunes while others got none after going through a thousand. And putting them in fortunes makes them get used up in the festival instead of saved for blessed aura use in pve like they were intended. The red bags just make more sense.

some guy · Feb 11, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

1-1 celestial pig trade.

Tell how to obtain a rat before the event.